How to solve dependent PDEs

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Travis
Travis on 9 Nov 2017
Answered: Torsten on 14 Nov 2017
I'm trying to solve the above set of PDEs for h and p which are both functions of r and t with the given initial and boundary conditions. I'm currently solving for F_f using gaussian quadrature for each t step. V is also a function of t that is solved using a simple first order ODE not shown here. After finding these two, I need to use them in the boundary conditions to solve the two dependent PDEs. I'm trying to use pdepe but am not sure if it's possible with this set of equations and conditions. Any advice would be very appreciated, thanks!

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Nicolas Schmit
Nicolas Schmit on 10 Nov 2017
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Torsten
Torsten on 10 Nov 2017
Edited: Torsten on 10 Nov 2017
My advice is to discretize both PDEs in r and solve the resulting system of ordinary differential equations in t using ODE15S (Method-of-Lines - approach).
This way, you have maximum flexibility for the implementation of your boundary conditions (especially for h at r=r_m) and maximum debugging options.
As you write correctly, using a tool like pdepe, one is often usure about what might cause the problem.
Best wishes
Torsten.
Travis
Travis on 11 Nov 2017
Hi Torsten, thanks for the advice. This seems like a much more feasible method. To solve this I'm treating the above as a DAE since dp/dt is not explicitly given. This is then giving me a system of N DAEs where N is twice the length of my r domain. I'm attempting to solve that system of DAEs with ode15s but am getting the error that the DAE is of index greater than 1. Is there any more insight you might be able to provide?
Thanks,
Travis

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Torsten
Torsten on 14 Nov 2017
Interesting problem.
I'd try this way:
Multiplying the second equation (p = ...) by 2*pi*r and integrating both sides from r=0 to r=r_m gives
integral_{r=0}^{r=r_m} 2*pi*r*p dr = 2*sigma/R * pi*r_m^2 - sigma*pi*r_m*(dh/dr)|r=r_m.
Together with your boundary condition for h at r=r_m you get
(h(r_m)+h(0)+r_m^2/R)/alpha = 2*sigma/R * pi*r_m^2 - sigma*pi*r_m*(dh/dr)|r=r_m
thus
-r_m*dh/dr|r=r_m = ((h(r_m)+h(0)+r_m^2/R)/(alpha*sigma*pi) -2*r_m^2/R (*)
Now given that h is known in
r1=0, r2=deltar, r3=2*deltar,...,rn=r_m,
you can calculate p for
r1'=deltar/2, r2'=3/2*deltar, ...,r_(n-1)'=r_m-deltar/2
via
p(ri') = 2*sigma/R - 1/2*sigma/ri' * (r_(i+1)*(dh/dr)|r=r_(i+1) - r_i*(dh/dr)|r=r_i)/deltar
(dh/dr)|r=r_i = (h(r_(i+1))-h(r_(i-1)))/(2*deltar)
(dh/dr)|r=0 = 0
(dh/dr)|r=r_m = (from above expression (*))
Now for inner points
(dh/dt)|r=ri = 1/(3*mu*ri)*(r_(i+1)*h_(i+1)^3*(dp/dr)|r=r_(i+1)-r_(i-1)*h_(i-1)^3*(dp/dr)|r=r_(i-1))/(2*deltar)
with
(dp/dr)|r=ri = (p(ri')-p(r_(i-1)'))/deltar
For r=r_m:
(dh/dt)|r=r_m = 1/(3*mu*r_m)*(r_m*h_m^3*(dp/dr)|r=r_m - r_(m-1)*h_(m-1)^3*(dp/dr)|r=r_(m-1))/deltar
and
(dp/dr)|r=r_m = (p(r_m-deltar/2)-p(rm))/(deltar/2) = 2*p(r_m-deltar/2)/deltar
For r=0:
h(0) is explicitly given by
h(0)=-h(rm)+alpha*F_f - r_m^2/R.
So you only need to discretize the first PDE for h and solve it using ODE15S.
Given h on the grid r1=0, r2=deltar,...,rn=r_m, you can deduce p on the grid r1'=deltar/2, r2'=3*deltar/2,...,r(n-1)=r_m-deltar/2 and calculate dh/dt at r=ri. Integrating (dh/dt)|r=r_i using ODE15S gives h.
Best wishes
Torsten

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