## zplane - don't the zeros and poles need to be complex?

on 22 May 2012

### Honglei Chen (view profile)

I'm just getting my head around the zplane function. I'm not how the values of z and p are mapped onto the pole-zero plot. I thought zeros and poles were supposed to have both real and imaginary parts - as these are the axes of the pole-zero plot. But in the examples of zplane code given in the help documentation the z and p values are just single real values. Also, for a 4 pole/zero filter there are 5 values for z and also for p. Shouldn't this be four?

Matt Fig

### Matt Fig (view profile)

on 2 Nov 2012

I'm just getting my head around the zplane function. I'm not how the values of z and p are mapped onto the pole-zero plot. I thought zeros and poles were supposed to have both real and imaginary parts - as these are the axes of the pole-zero plot. But in the examples of zplane code given in the help documentation the z and p values are just single real values. Also, for a 4 pole/zero filter there are 5 values for z and also for p. Shouldn't this be four?

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### Honglei Chen (view profile)

on 22 May 2012

zplane is a little subtle. When B and A are rows, they represent transfer functions. However, if B and A are columns, they are zeros and poles.

Compare

```    [b,a] = ellip(4,.5,20,.6);
zplane(b,a)
zplane(roots(b),roots(a))```

Honglei Chen

### Honglei Chen (view profile)

on 24 May 2012

You can do A(:), but A' should work if all elements in the row vector are real

Tom

on 24 May 2012

great thanks :)

Honglei Chen

### Honglei Chen (view profile)

on 24 May 2012

Hi Tom, in your code, b and a are coefficients. So if you want to use zplane, you need to keep them in the row form and zplane will automatically calculate zeros and poles for you and display in the figure.

On the other hand, if you want to pass in column vectors, then zplane treat them as just zeros and poles. In this case, you need to compute zeros and poles yourself before passing it into the function. So you need to do zplane(roots(b),roots(a)).

HTH

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